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 +==== 2.11.   Life Is Desirable, But Unlimitied Time Contains No Greater Pleasure Than Limited Time.   ====
  
 +  - Major Implications: Life is generally desirable because it generally affords the opportunity for pleasure.
 +  - Citations:
 +      - [[https://www.epicureanfriends.com/wcf/lexicon/entry/29-pd19/|PD19]]. Infinite time contains no greater pleasure than limited time, if one measures, by reason, the limits of pleasure.
 +      - Letter to Menoeceus 126: "And he who counsels the young man to live well, but the old man to make a good end, is foolish, not merely because of the desirability of life, but also because it is the same training which teaches to live well and to die well."
 +      - [[https://www.epicureanfriends.com/wcf/lexicon/entry/28-pd18/|PD18]]. The pleasure in the flesh is not increased when once the pain due to want is removed, but is only varied: and the limit as regards pleasure in the mind is begotten by the reasoned understanding of these very pleasures, and of the emotions akin to them, which used to cause the greatest fear to the mind.
 +      - [[https://www.epicureanfriends.com/wcf/lexicon/entry/30-pd20/|PD20]]. The flesh perceives the limits of pleasure as unlimited, and unlimited time is required to supply it. But the mind, having attained a reasoned understanding of the ultimate good of the flesh and its limits, and having dissipated the fears concerning the time to come, supplies us with the complete life, and we have no further need of infinite time; but neither does the mind shun pleasure, nor, when circumstances begin to bring about the departure from life, does it approach its end as though it fell short, in any way, of the best life.
 +      - [[https://www.epicureanfriends.com/wcf/lexicon/entry/31-pd21/|PD21]]. He who has learned the limits of life knows that that which removes the pain due to want, and makes the whole of life complete, is easy to obtain, so that there is no need of actions which involve competition.
 +      - Notes:
 +      - [[https://www.epicureanfriends.com/ https://www.epicureanfriends.com/board/737-pleasure-is-desirable-the-alpha-and-omega-the-guide-of-life/|Discussion Forum:]]